Look Like Time Doesn’t Exist. We Made It Up, Of Course.


Strangely, this seems very logical.

Look Like Time Doesn’t Exist.  We Made It Up, Of Course. ©®The Daily Galaxy July 29, 2012

Scientists at the Scientific Research Centre Bistra in Ptuj, Slovenia, have theorized that the Newtonian idea of time as an absolute quantity that flows on its own, along with the idea that time is the fourth dimension of spacetime, are incorrect. They propose to replace these concepts of time with a view that corresponds more accurately to the physical world: time as a measure of the numerical order of change.
This view doesn’t mean that time does not exist, but that time has more to do with space than with the idea of an absolute time.  So while 4D spacetime is usually considered to consist of three dimensions of space and one dimension of time, the researchers’ view suggests that it’s more correct to imagine spacetime as four dimensions of space. In other words, as they say, the Universe is “timeless.”

we usually assume that:

  • time is an absolute physical quantity
  • that plays the role of the independent variable (time, t, is often the x-axis on graphs that show the evolution of a physical system)
  • But, we never really measure t.
  • What we do measure is an object’s frequency and speed
  • by itself, t has only a mathematical value, and no primary physical existence.

“The point of view which considers time to be a physical entity in which material changes occur is here replaced with a more convenient view of time being merely the numerical order of material change.  This view corresponds better to the physical world and has more explanatory power in describing immediate physical phenomena: gravity, electrostatic interaction, information transfer by EPR experiment are physical phenomena carried directly by the space in which physical phenomena occur.”

“The idea of time being the fourth dimension of space did not bring much progress in physics and is in contradiction with the formalism of special relativity,” ….It seems that the Universe is 3D from the macro to the micro level …In this 3D space there is no ‘length contraction,’ there is no ‘time dilation.’ What really exists is that the velocity of material change is ‘relative’ in the Einstein sense.”

…. Numerical order is not equivalent to temporal order, i.e., the number 1 does not exist before the number 2 in time, only numerically.  Without using time as the fourth dimension of spacetime, the physical world can be described more accurately….

Other scientists have pointed out that the mathematical model of spacetime does not correspond to physical reality, and propose that a timeless “state space” provides a more accurate framework. The scientists also investigated the falsifiability of the two notions of time.

The concept of time as the fourth dimension of space — as a fundamental physical entity in which an experiment occurs — can be falsified by an experiment in which time does not exist, according to the scientists.

“Newton theory on absolute time is not falsifiable;  you cannot prove it or disprove it — you have to believe in it,…The theory of time as the fourth dimension of space is falsifiable and in our last article we prove there are strong indications that it might be wrong.

On the basis of experimental data, time is what we measure with clocks: with clocks we measure the numerical order of material change, i.e., motion in space.”
Some recent studies have challenged the theory that the brain represents time with an internal “clock” that emits neural ticks (the “pacemaker-accumulator” model) and suggest that the brain represents time in a spatially distributed way, by detecting the activation of different neural populations.

Although we perceive events as occurring in the past, present, or future, these concepts may just be part of a psychological frame in which we experience material changes in space.


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